U2 Interviews
- BBC Interview on Christmas Eve '97
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Bono phoned into BBC 1 Radio in Britain on Christmas Eve and
gave us a glimpse of his Christmas.
Bono talks over the phone from Dublin to the interviewer, Jo
Whiley on her lunchtime show.
Where words were emphasised, I've included in capitals.
Bono: (interrupts the fade-out of Radiohead, singing) "Its
Christmas....boom-boom-boom-boom....."
Jo: Its Radio 1, its the lunchtime social and THAT was who was
lurking behind the advent calendar today. Would you like to
identify yourself a bit more? The Christmas Eve celebrity
is...
Bono: Ha...Arrrgh! I'm NOT a celebrity, though.
Jo: Because you're that special.
Bono: I said I'll always be a roll 'n roll star as long as I
don't become a celebrity. I'm BONO!
Jo: OK (giggle) Bono, rock 'n roll star, how are you?
Bono: Actually I couldn't be better.
Jo: How's your state of mind this morning?
Bono: I'm high as a kite and I've just been blown around by
all the breezes here in Dublin, its a windy day.... but do you
whats GREAT about it?
Jo: What?
Bono : It isn't America! It isn't anywhere else in the
world.
Jo: It's home.
Bono: I'm AMAZED to be at home, yea.
Jo: Describe your surroundings, where you are - in your
house..?
Bono: I'm in a house on the sea. I've never really strayed far
from the sea, even when we had.... I used to live in our first
rehearsal room - it used to have a bed in it. And that was right
on the sea and now I've got a POSHER place but its the sea that
makes it special. It's outside of Dublin.
Jo: Which ROOM of the house are you in?
Bono: I'm in the ... its a blue room with basically just
windows in it - you just see right out onto the sea...
Jo: It sounds lovely
Bono: ...Liam Gallagher - what was it he said he said
(imitates Manchester accent "You live in a house in the sky..."
coz you just get sky, sea and some furniture. Its an old Georgian
house, but its great.
Jo: What's it like when you get home after long absences? What
do you do when you first get in the house?
Bono: I have to remind everyone at home that I am in fact the
boss (laughs). They just start laughing at me - they think its
very funny and ... you know... there's nothing I EAT in the
house, there's nothing that I might DRINK in the house...
Jo: Do you feel like a stranger in your own house?
Bono: Yea...but I've always been like that. I am a kind of a
travel rat. Its actually not that important ... that they know
who I am...(chuckles)
Jo : Is it difficult for THEM to adjust...do you wander around
the house and feel restless and is it difficult to get on with
each other?
Bono: Ali, my missus says "We are not 50,000 people...SHUT
UP!" (laughs) But actually over the years, I think I've gotten
much easier at coming and going. I'm always surprised when I'm
leaving, they get really excited! That's not the way its supposed
to be.
Jo: (laughs) Surely its the other way around. Is the Christmas
tree up in the house now?
Bono: Yep. I'm sitting right beside it now in this room. It's
got a load of mirrorballs hanging from it... and a lemon.
Jo : Oh really? Cheap at the price? Promotional were they?
Bono: Yea...like the Popmartians have built this.
Jo: How do you celebrate Christmas. What do you do on
Christmas Eve?
Bono: On Christmas Eve, what Irish people do is they go down
to Midnight Mass, drunk and get into a fight. I don't know if you
ever listen to the police radio...I have a um... relation that
listens to the police radio... he's just one of those kind of
guys. He says it's MADNESS in Dublin, it's like "Car 2 go
straight down there to St Cannister's, there's been a row at the
back of the church..." (laughs) That's what I love about Dublin
and Ireland - at Christmastime it DOES get messy. It's like an
Irish wedding, there's always tears, always trouble, but a LOT of
laughter, too.
Jo: But YOU wont be doing that though.
Bono: What, laughter?
Jo: No, going out and getting into trouble and making noise
and stuff...
Bono: I will. I absolutely will.
Jo: You will? Who with?
Bono: I've got all my mates here - and there's a lot of
them.
Jo: I thought you'd be at midnight mass or something.
Bono: Oh, I will probably go to midnight mass...
Jo: ... then vomit afterwards outside?
Bono: No... (laughs) I'll probably go out AFTER Midnight Mass
becuase
actually...I am a .... vampire. I won't be going to bed
early.
Jo: But then you'll be all messy on the day itself. Christmas
morning - you're
not good on Christmas morning?
Bono: Christmas morning the kids walk over me...unwrap their
dad...put him in bed, get their presents out...(laughs) Actually,
I'll try not to keep it too late on Christmas Eve...but I will be
going out. We've got a great club here in Dublin y'know called
"The Kitchen" but I suppose I'm realizing that there are two
little kids that, y'know...
Jo: Yea Dad - behave! Is there anything you want or need for
Christmas? I'd
imagine there's not much you can buy you really.
Bono: The band said that we werent going to buy each other
presents this year, that we'd buy each other books, because books
are a great present; they're not so expensive and you can kind of
live in them for a while. I don't want to do the big Christmas
thing. I don't want to get lost in all of that...sometimes I do.
Y'know when you're a rock star you get to play Santa Claus don't
you, if you're not careful. I'm making sure the kids know what
it's supposed to be about ... apart from their dad getting in too
late, getting a hangover, presents... I would like to take them
out and do SOMETHING, not with cameras and all of that, I'd just
like them to understand that they're very lucky.
> RADIO PLAYS "IF GOD WOULD SEND HIS ANGELS" (SINGLE
VERSION) <
Jo: On this tour there's been several occasions when you've
had your emotions pulled out, you've had to expose them in front
of the crowd, y'know with Diana, playing Sarajevo, with Michael
Hutchence... Is that difficult or is that kind of cathartic for
you?
Bono: Thats what I do. I mean ... U2 has always been a bit of
an opera... we're
not very stiff-upper-lippy are we?
Jo: (Agreeing) No!
Bono: ...and I feel that music is about being honest about the
way you feel, you're hopes and the big ideas in your head. Thats
what music is to me. And when I'm singing songs, I have to live
in them to make them connect with people, I can't just ... sing
it, you know.
Jo: Just reading the reviews and seeing what the gigs are
like, it has often just felt like you're kind of reflecting the
audience's feelings at the time...its like a mutual sharing of
emotions...
Bono: I find it very difficult and still do, to deal with
Hutch's passing. I find that difficult because I don't really
believe that he meant it in his life. He loved life and kinda
KNEW that suicide and all that is TOO EASY. I've discussed it
even, about other people and he knew that wasn't smart and he
knew it was vain, and ... he wasn't selfish enough. That's just
where I'm at today...
Jo: Its difficult to understand it completely.
Bono: It IS very difficult and I still can't figure it out.
Ali went down to Sydney for the funeral, but I never quite got a
chance to say some of the things I'd like to have said to him in
person because I missed most of the last year, because he was out
working and I was out working but he was a great singer and he
loved Tiger Lily and Paul and loads of mates... I can't really
get it
together for you, but it was very hard to be AWAY because you'd
only hear little reports in America...we were playing Texas:
actually we were on stage in Texas when they were carrying his
coffin out and I found that out literally as it was
happening...
Jo: The tour continues until March : what do you do after
that? Is there going to be a new album next year? Other
projects...
Bono: I don't want.....The thing I'm holding onto at the
moment is the idea of simplifying our life in U2 because when you
start out in a band you have a single passion and thats to write
the song you hear in your head and to take it as far as you can.
Then as you get on you get all kinds of ideas, but coming
thorough at the moment is a strong sense of wanting to make the
record that no-one else can make -- I want to be in a great group
and don't want to make it
easier for any of these whipper-snapper groups.
Jo: (laughs) that whip your ass...OK... So when did the lemon
last get stuck?
Bono: There was only one Lemon Breakdown on this whole tour
... which was a damn shame. It wouldn't open in ... I think it
was Norway and we had "Lemon Breakdown." And we had no plan so we
just started to laugh on the inside and we sent it out there
anyway and came in at the back of the place and that was a bit of
a ... voi-la.. It wasn't very George Clinton when it opened and
there was no band there...but it kept us going.
Jo: Yea. Listen we're going to have to stop this because I
have to do my radio show. I'll say thank you very much for
talking to us today, and can you give us some Christmas presents
to give to people?
Bono: YOU want ME to give you a Christmas present?
Jo: Yea, AND the listeners as well, obviously. Something from
each member of the band, maybe like a plectrum from Edge...and do
you think you could cobble together a Christmas present?
Bono: I pledge YOU my loyalty, first off...
Jo: Thank you.
Bono: That's for you, Jo and your producer, Pat. From the rest
of the group I will take something ... can it be from South
America?
Jo: Yea
Bono: Can it be from Mexico, because we did this broadcast
from Mexico, which is THE business which went out over America,
I'm sure its going to come out in the UK in the next month ...
and I'm going to get each member of the band to send you
something from Mexico City.
Jo: OK That would be lovely. Finally choose a Christmas record
for us to play on Christmas Eve.
Bono: On Christmas Eve? Well, just because of what's going on
in Ireland, and my...our prayers for the future, y'know and peace
and this may sound corny, but its the first record I ever bought
- Its John Lennon "So this is Christmas... War is over ... IF you
want it."
Jo: Thank you very much. Say Happy Christmas to the listeners
for us.
Bono: Er... Happy Christmas ... from Bono and the U2ers. God
bless.
Jo: Take care. See you. Bye.
Jo: (whispers) Happy Christmas Bono.
Bono: (whispers) Happy Christmas Jo.
>RADIO PLAYS "HAPPY CHRISTMAS : WAR IS OVER" BY JOHN
LENNON
Transcribed by Andy Rees (itsa@mister.ie)
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